OGDEN’S RADIO SCHOOL-6 (final chapter)

R.O.E.S. Memories
By Jim McDonald, Bill’s Nephew

How did William B. Ogden get to California?

Emma K. Jensen, the matriarchal strength of the family, brought her three daughters Patricia, Tally and Thora to America from
England where she owned and operated successful boarding houses. Bill was born in Maryland and attended and graduated
from a Military School. He wrote music and poems and became a theater barker where he met Tally.

They entered America via Ellis Island and settled in New York where  Emma  pursued her ability to run houses and moved the family to a three-story home in Palisades Park, New Jersey and established another house business.  The daughters entered into a theatrical position with the  Rocketts’ so were in show business where he met Tally.

He and Tally did not have children thus his great love of children, which was such a blessing to all of us the extended family kids.

Bill and Tally married in 1943 and then he went off to war where he served in the Army Signal Corps and taught electronics and was sent to
China.

Thora the youngest sister was divorced. Tally had married Bill and Patricia married Charles Stevenson. Emma decided to move us all
to California so we moved to North Hollywood. Emma bought property in Burbank California and built homes for Tally and Bill,
Pat and Steve and the house Thora, Grandma, and I lived in. When Bill and Charles were discharged they found out they should come to California so they did.

Pat and Steve began their new adventures, Pat was involved in private investigation and Steve (Charles) became a technical  representative for an aircraft/aerospace firm. Bill and Tally were encouraged to use Bill’s great ability for teaching and his electronic  background to find an avenue for a career. Thora and Emma continued to support boarders and child day care.

The start of R.O.E.S:

The FCC (Federal Communications  Commission) required a 1st Class Radio Telephone license for repairs done on commercial  radio and the new T.V. phenomena. While there were plenty of skilled few had the required to satisfy the FCC requirement,
hence an opportunity for Bill. When radio and TV stations had announcers that had the required license local technicians
perform the required repairs. Announcers could gain employment and higher wages if they had this license. Bill provided a solution with a class to teach announcers and technicians the required curriculum to obtain the license.

He made a proposal to the Don Martin School of Radio and Television Arts and they accepted. They were located in Hollwood and Bill with limited funds bought a Cushman motor scooter and drove to Hollywood from Burbank. This was a big commute in those days. Television was booming and doing many remote broadcasts during this time frame. If the announcers had the required FCC  1st Class RadioTelephone license they could function as remote technicians  adding greater strength for Bill’s concept. This is where he taught Don Lomond and Jack Narz.

Bill increased the scope of his program by adding the Fredric A . Sefers School of Radio Arts.

With two accidents on his scooter and great success in the concept, Tally and Bill decided to start their own business.

They owned the first R.O.E.S in Burbank in 1949, not the one most people know of on Olive Ave.

The first school was an office building two miles away from the Olive Ave School. On the way home Bill and Tally would see the new
school property and asked the owners who ran a holiday shop there. They bought the property. The property consisted of a house and work shop. Tally and Bill built the new school in the house portion of the property but kept the workshop where Bill built the students desks for
the school.

The school flourished and by the time they decided to moved the school and make their home in  to Huntington Beach where they retired in 1973.

Bill still loved work and children and he created bowling leagues for the kids to participate in and made wood workings for the family.

Bill, Tally and Thora rest at the Pacific View Memorial Park in Corona Del Mar, CA 9 miles south of Huntington Beach, CA.  over looking the Pacific Ocean.

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William Bernard Ogden was born April 18, 1913 and passed away in Huntington Beach, CA on January 24, 1998 at the age of 85 .
The cause of death was aortic failure following a prolonged surgery at the Houston, TX Medical Center.

Attalla (Tally) Ogden was born on April 17,1914 and died March 5, 2006 at the age of 92. Thora died on March 5, ???????? The cause of death for both was Cancer.

We want to thank Bill’s niece Patty Stevenson Porter and nephew Jim McDonald for
sharing with us memories of Bill, Tally, Thora and you can thank them by signing the Ogden (LINK) Guestbook leaving your  comments.

Bill Statement:

“The accomplishment of the difficult show what men are. You did and you accomplished it.”

 

We greatly appreciate the contributions and help of Bill’s niece Patty Porter and Bill’s nephew Jim McDonald (Thora’s son)
enabling us to pay our respects and to bring back those precious memories in our lives many years ago.  It was an incredible time that we will never forget. May you rest in peace!

Bill Major Surgery:
Bill developed aneurysms on this aortic artery, three to be exact, upper, mid, and lower all of which were a size that could lead to a
rupture which would be catastrophic. His cardiologist suggested the we go to Houston Medical Center and consult with Dr. Crawford
the only surgeon who was doing the lower fix.

We started the journey and met with Dr. Crawford and his 19 teen member team in training and agreed to have the surgery.
Crawford was an amazing physician, since I was handling their finances the question of cost came up. His answer was
simple whatever the insurance payed was his fee we never. We never received a bill! The surgery lasted over ten hours
with Bill’s body temperature being lowered to 90 degrees F . Bill then spent almost 3 months in intensive care recovering
from the surgery because they could not get him off the respirator support due to his lung capacity. Probably caused by his smoking.

Finally we were ready to bring him home from Houston to Huntington Beach. When I went to check him out they printed his
medical charges which amounted to three quarter of an inch of computer paper. Thank God I had a no limit American Express Card.
we were prepared for the worse when we looked at the total charges a little more than ere $430,000. I almost fainted.
Thank God for doctors and medical centers that were truly there to help
Tally and Thora stayed at a hotel that connected to the hospital by a walkway for the whole time I would fly in every week to
be with them and Pat came down to be there for a while also.

Now it was white knuckle time for me. He needed an oxygen tank to get home finding an airline that would allow it was difficult,
hats off to American Airlines they allowed all of us to fly home. Bill and Tally were in first class and Thora and I were in coach

so I would go up frequently and check on them and Mom said to me stop worrying. I got upset and have to confess that I yelled
at an Angel out of nervous frustration. She was right we made it and Bill recovered for a long time. We found out much later
that one of the repairs was not successful which really upset Bill. You could see in him for the first time a lack of fight. While not
being a physician, the lack of fight was probably a influencing factor in his passing.

January 25, 2019

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You asked about my teaching math, Bill worked with me on math in my teens at home and at the school I
worked at the dtnr and cabinet business next to the first ROES school and would go over after to ride home
so I was exposed to his teaching In 1954 1 attended the class during the summer and obtained a 1st Class
Radio Telephone license

Bill instilled in me a desire to share knowledge so I started teaching math at ROES. Thank the Lord my teaching
experience expanded to being a teaching assistant at Glendale College, University of California
State Los Angelesv and North ridge,lecturer at UCLA and IJCI in sales and marketing to the graduate school
of business and systems engineering at the University of Missouri.
I also had the wonderful opportunity to teach business ethics for years at McDonnell Douglas school of
management training.
I can not help you on Richard Kiel while he was one of my students I have no knowledge of his teaching at ROES.
l’am going to combine another question you had about teaching the FCC test.
Bill was a analytical person so when he decided to teach the course he researched the reason for the
license. With directional stations and the advent of TV and remote broadcasts It was imperative to insure that they
did not infringe on other areas. So, the analysis to course content went like this:

– Third Class Rules and Regulations
– Second class theory of transmission electronics to supervise technicians
– First class management of technical performance i.e. Mu Lu equation as an operator did you understand
your meter readings to insure that you were not infringing on other stations frequencies?

I could have a mole for Bill since I was teaching and part of the family when I took the exams .
Never a question of the test content was asked, instead we would sit down for at least an hour or two and
discuss many issues, one of which was how we prepare students to better understand the theory and importance of
achieving their goal. Most of the time we would take an issue an discuss different view even though
we agreed that is teaching and learning, it is a shame our universities have lost this perspective.
Every one remembers R.T. D.Q. ( Read The Damn Question) that included the reason for the testing and Bill figured it outl
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R.O.E.S. Memories
By Jim McDonald, Bill’s Nephew
How did William B. Ogden get to California?
Background Music on/off
97
Christmas 1983 (Click for largecphoto_)
Bill and Tally’s 50th wedding anniversary in 1993. They married in 1943_
Emma K. Jensen, the matriarchal strength of the family, brought her three daughters Patricia, Tally and Thora to America from
England where she owned and operated successful boarding houses.
Bill was born in Maryland and attended and graduated from a Military School. He wrote music and pæms and became a theater
barker where he met Tally.
They entered America via Ellis Island and settled in New York. Emma then pursued her ability to run houses and moved the
family toa three-story home in Palisades Park, New Jersey and established another house business. The daughters
entered into a theatrical position with the Rocketts’ so were in show business where he met Tally.
He and Tally did not have children thus his great love of children, which was such a blessing to all of us the extended family kids.
Bill and Tally married and then he went off to war where he served in the Army signal Corps and taught electronics and was sent to
China.
Thora the youngest sister was divorced. Tally had married Bill; Pat was married to Charles Stevenson. Emma decided to move us all
to California so we did.
We moved to North Hollywood and then Emma bought property in Burbank California and built homes for Tally and Bill, Pat and
Steve and the house Thora, Grandma, and I lived in.
When Bill and Charles were discharged they found out they should come to California so they did.
Pat and Steve IEgan their new adventures, Pat was involved in private investigation and Steve (Charles) became a technical
representative for an aircraft/aerospace firm. Bill and Tally were encouraged to use Bill’s great ability for teaching and his electronic
background to find an avenue for a career. Thora and Emma continued to support boarders and child day care.
The start of R.O.E.S:
The FCC required a 1st Class Telephone license for repairs to done on commercial radio and the new T.V. phenomena. While there
were plenty of skilled few had the required to satisfy the FCC requirement, hence an opportunity for Bill.
When radio and TV stations had announcers that had the required license local technicians perform the required repairs.
Announcers could gain employment and higher wages if they had this license. He provided a solution with a class to teach
announcers and technicians the required curriculum to obtain the license.
He made a proposal to the Don Martin School of Radio and IV Arts and they accepted. They were located in Hollw,’ood and Bill with
limited funds bought a Cushman motor scooter and drove to Hollv.’ood from Burbank. This was a big commute in those days.
T.V. was booming and were doing many remote broadcasts during this time frame and if the announcers had the the remote
technicians could function, greater strength for Bills concept. This is where he taught Don Lomond and Jack Narz. Bill increased the
sco# of his program by adding the Fredric A SFEers School of Radio Arts.
With two accidents on his scooter and great success in the concept, Tally and Bill decided to start their own business.
They 0#ned the first R.O.E.S in Burbank in 1949, not the one most people know of on Olive Ave.
The first school was an office building two miles away from the Olive AVE School; on the way home Bill and Tally would see the new
school property and asked the owners who ran a holiday shop if it was for sale. The owners this and sold the property
to them. The property consisted of a house and work shop.
Tally and Bill built the new school in the house prtion of the property but kept the workshop where Bill built the students desks for
the school.
The school flourished and when they decided to move to Huntington Beach in 1966. This is where they retired in 1973. Bill still loved
work and children and He created bowling leagues for the kids to participate in and made wood workings for the family.
1995 cruise, one of 23 they enjoyed.
Click for largecphoto_
Thora, Bill and Tally
Bill, Tally and Thora restat the Pacific View Memorial Park in Corona Del Mar, CA 9 miles south of Huntington Beach, CA. over looking the Pacific Ocean.
William Bernard Ogden was born April 18, 1913 and passed away in Huntington Beach, CA on January 24, 1998 at the age of 85 The cause of death was aortic failure following a prolonged surgery at the Houston, TX
Medical Center. Attalla (Tally) Ogden was born on April 1771914 and died March 5, 2006 at the age of 92. Thora died on March 5, The cause ofdeath for both was Cancer. We want to thank Bill’s niece Patty
Stevenson Porter and nephew Jim McDonald for sharing with us memories of Bill, Tally, Thora and You can thank them by—igmng the Ogde Guestbook lea -ng your
“The Accom lishment ofthe Difficult Sho What Men Are. Bill’s statement- ” ou did and you accomplishedL”
We greatly appreciate the contributions and help of Bill’s niece Patty Porter and Bill’s nephew Jim McDonald (Thora’s son) enabling us to pay our res#cts and to bring back those precious memories in
our lives many years ago. It was an incredible time that we will never forget. May you rest in peace!
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January 25, 2019
Bill Major Surgery:
Bill developed aneurysms on this aortic artery, three to be exact, up;Er, mid, and lower all of which were a size that could lead to a rupture which would be catastrophic. HIS cardiologist suggested the we go to Houston
medical Center and consult with Dr. Crawford the only surgeon who was doing the lower fix.
We started the journey and met with Dr. Craw’ford and his 19 teen member team in training and agreed to have the surgery.
Crawford was an amazing physician, since i was handling their finances the question of cost came up. His answer was simple whatever the insurance payed was the fee we never received a bill! WOWI
The surgery lasted over ten hours with Bill’s body temperature being lowered to 90 degrees F
Bill then spent almost 3 months in intensive care recovering from the surgery because they could not get him off the respirator support due to his lung capacity Probably caused by his smoking
Finally we were ready to bring him home from Houston to Huntington Beach. When I went to check him out they printed his medical charges 3/4 inch of computer p.a#r, thank God I had a no limit American Express Card
so prepared for the worse looked at the total charges and were $431 _ 54, I almost fainted.
Thank Gcd for doctors and medical centers that were truly there to help
Tally and Thora stayed at a hotel that connected to the hospital by a walkway for the whole time I would fly in every week to be with them and Pat came down to be there for a while also. Now the white knuckle time came
for me he needed an oxygen tank to get home finding an airline that would allow it was difficult, hats off to American Airlines they agreed Bill and Tally were in first class and Thora and I were in coach so I would go up
frequently and check on them and Mom said to me stop worrying I got upset and have to confess that I yelled at an Angel out of nervous frustration.
She was right we made it and Bill recovered fora long time. We found out much later that one ofthe repairs was not successful this news really effected Bill. You could see in him for the first time a lack of fight. While not
being a physician, the lack of fight was probably a influencing factor in his passing.
Next snippet will be on teaChing math.
Warmest Regards
Jim
January 25, 2019
You asked about my teaching math, Bill worked with me on math in my teens at home and at the school I worked at the dtnr and cabinet business next to the first ROES school and would go over after to ride home
so I was exposed to his teaching In 1954 1 attended the class during the summer and obtained a 1st Class Radio Telephone license
Bill instilled in me a desire to share knowledge so I started teaching math at ROES. Thank the Lord my teaching experience expanded to being a teaching assistant at Glendale College, University of California
State Los Angelesv and North ridge,lecturer at UCLA and IJCI in sales and marketing to the graduate school of business and systems engineering at the University of Missouri.
I also had the wonderful opportunity to teach business ethics for years at McDonnell Douglas school of management training.
I can not help you on Richard Kiel while he was one of my students I have no knowledge of his teaching at ROES.
l’am going to combine another question you had about teaching the FCC test.
Bill was a analytical person so when he decided to teach the course he researchedthe reason for the license. With directional stations and the advent of TV and remote broadcasts It was imperative to insure that they
did not infringe on other areas. So the analysis to course content went like this:
Third Class Rules and Regulations
Second class theory of transmission electronics to supervise technicians
First class management of technical wformance i.e. Mu Lu equation as an operator did you understand your meter readings to insure that you were not infringing on Other stations frequency?
I could have a mole for Bill since I was teaching and part of the family when I took the exams never a question of the test content was asked in stead we would sit down for at least an hour or two and discuss many
Issues one of which was how we prepare students to better understand the theory and importance of achieving their goal. Most of the time we would take an issue an discuss different view even though we agreed
that is teaching and learning, it is a shame our universities have lost this perspective.
Every one remembers RT. D Q. that included the reason for the testing and Bill figured it outl
Regards,
Jim
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R.O.E.S. Memories By Jim McDonald, Bill’s Nephew.

How did William B. Ogden get to California?

 

Emma K. Jensen, the matriarchal strength of the family, brought her three daughters Patricia, Tally and Thora to America from England where she owned and operated successful boarding houses. Bill was born in Maryland and attended and graduated from a Military School. He wrote music and poems and became a theater barker where he met Tally.

They entered America via Ellis Island and settled in New York. Emma then pursued her ability to run houses and moved the family to a three-story home in Palisades Park, New Jersey and established another house business. The daughters entered into a theatrical position with the Rocketts’ so were in show business where he met Tally.

He and Tally did not have children thus his great love of children, which was such a blessing to all of us the extended family kids. Bill and Tally married and then he went off to war where he served in the Army signal Corps and taught electronics and was sent to China.

Thora the youngest sister was divorced. Tally had married Bill and Patricia married Charles Stevenson. Emma decided to move us all to California so we moved to North Hollywood. Emma bought property in Burbank California and built homes for Tally and Bill, Pat and Steve and the house Thora, Grandma, and I lived in. When Bill and Charles were discharged they found out they should come to California so they did. Pat and Steve IEgan their new adventures, Pat was involved in private investigation and Steve (Charles) became a technical representative for an aircraft/aerospace firm. Bill and Tally were encouraged to use Bill’s great ability for teaching and his electronic background to find an avenue for a career. Thora and Emma continued to support boarders and child day care.

The start of R.O.E.S:

The FCC (Federal Communications Commission) required a 1st Class Telephone license for repairs to done on commercial radio and the new T.V. phenomena. While there were plenty of skilled few had the required to satisfy the FCC requirement, hence an opportunity for Bill. When radio and TV stations had announcers that had the required license local technicians perform the required repairs. Announcers could gain employment and higher wages if they had this license. He provided a solution with a class to teach announcers and technicians the required curriculum to obtain the license.

He made a proposal to the Don Martin School of Radio and Television Arts and they accepted. They were located in Hollwood and Bill with limited funds bought a Cushman motor scooter and drove to Hollvwood from Burbank. This was a big commute in those days. T.V. was booming and were doing many remote broadcasts during this time frame and if the announcers had the

The remote technicians could function, greater strength for Bill’s concept. This is where he taught Don Lomond and Jack Narz.

Bill increased the scope of his program by adding the Fredric A SFEers School of Radio Arts. With two accidents on his scooter and great success in the concept, Tally and Bill decided to start their own business. They owned the first R.O.E.S in Burbank in 1949, not the one most people know of on Olive Ave.

The first school was an office building two miles away from the Olive Ave School. On the way home Bill and Tally would see the new school property and asked the owners who ran a holiday shop there. They bought the property. The property consisted of a house and work shop. Tally and Bill built the new school in the house portion of the property but kept the workshop where Bill built the students desks for the school.

The school flourished and when they decided to move to Huntington Beach in 1966. This is where they retired in 1973. Bill still loved work and children and He created bowling leagues for the kids to participate in and made wood workings for the family.

1995 cruise, one of 2h they enjoyed. Click for largecphoto

Thora, Bill and Tally

Bill, Tally and Thora rest at the Pacific View Memorial Park in Corona Del Mar, CA 9 miles south of Huntington Beach, CA. over looking the Pacific Ocean.

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William Bernard Ogden was born April 18, 1913 and passed away in Huntington Beach, CA on January 24, 1998 at the age of 85 The cause of death was aortic failure following a prolonged surgery at the Houston, TX Medical Center.

Attalla (Tally) Ogden was born on April 17,1914 and died March 5, 2006 at the age of 92. Thora died on March 5, ????????

The cause of death for both was Cancer. We want to thank Bill’s niece Patty Stevenson Porter and nephew Jim McDonald for sharing with us memories of Bill, Tally, Thora and you can thank them by signing the Ogden (LINK) Guestbook leaving your comments.

Bill Statement:

“The accomplishment of the difficult show what men are. You did and you accomplished it.” We greatly appreciate the contributions and help of Bill’s niece Patty Porter and Bill’s nephew Jim McDonald (Thora’s son) enabling us to pay our respects and to bring back those precious memories in our lives many years ago. It was an incredible time that we will never forget. May you rest in peace!

———————————–

Bill Major Surgery:

 

Bill developed aneurysms on his aortic artery, three to be exact, upper, mid, and lower all of which were a size that could lead to a rupture which would be catastrophic. His cardiologist suggested the we go to Houston Medical Center and consult with Dr. Crawford the only surgeon who was doing the lower fix.

We started the journey and met with Dr. Crawford and his 19 teen member team in training and agreed to have the surgery. Crawford was an amazing physician, since I was handling their finances the question of cost came up. His answer was simple whatever the insurance payed was his fee we never. We never received a bill! The surgery lasted over ten hours with Bill’s body temperature being lowered to 90 degrees F . Bill then spent almost 3 months in intensive care recovering from the surgery because they could not get him off the respirator support due to his lung capacity. Probably caused by his smoking. Finally we were ready to bring him home from Houston to Huntington Beach. When I went to check him out they printed his medical charges which amounted to three quarter of an inch of computer paper. Thank God I had a no limit American Express Card. we were prepared for the worse when we looked at the total charges a little more than ere $430,000. I almost fainted. Thank God for doctors and medical centers that were truly there to help Tally and Thora stayed at a hotel that connected to the hospital by a walkway for the whole time I would fly in every week to be with them and Pat came down to be there for a while also.

Now it was white knuckle time for me. He needed an oxygen tank to get home finding an airline that would allow it was difficult, hats off to American Airlines they allowed all of us to fly home. Bill and Tally were in first class and Thora and I were in coach

so I would go up frequently and check on them and Mom said to me stop worrying. I got upset and have to confess that I yelled at an Angel out of nervous frustration. She was right we made it and Bill recovered for a long time. We found out much later that one of the repairs was not successful which really upset Bill. You could see in him for the first time a lack of fight. While not being a physician, the lack of fight was probably a influencing factor in his passing.

January 25, 2019

——————————————–

You asked about my teaching math, Bill worked with me on math in my teens at home and at the school I worked at the dtnr and cabinet business next to the first ROES school and would go over after to ride home so I was exposed to his teaching In 1954 1 attended the class during the summer and obtained a 1st Class Radio Telephone license

Bill instilled in me a desire to share knowledge so I started teaching math at ROES. Thank the Lord my teaching experience expanded to being a teaching assistant at Glendale College, University of California State Los Angeles and North ridge,lecturer at UCLA and IJCI in sales and marketing to the graduate school of business and systems engineering at the University of Missouri. I also had the wonderful opportunity to teach business ethics for years at McDonnell Douglas school of management training. I can not help you on Richard Kiel while he was one of my students I have no knowledge of his teaching at ROES. l’am going to combine another question you had about teaching the FCC test. Bill was a analytical person so when he decided to teach the course he researched the reason for the license. With directional stations and the advent of TV and remote broadcasts It was imperative to insure that they did not infringe on other areas. So, the analysis to course content went like this:

– Third Class Rules and Regulations – Second class theory of transmission electronics to supervise technicians – First class management of technical performance i.e. Mu Lu equation as an operator did you understand your meter readings to insure that you were not infringing on other stations frequencies? I could have a mole for Bill since I was teaching and part of the family when I took the exams . Never a question of the test content was asked, instead we would sit down for at least an hour or two and discuss many issues, one of which was how we prepare students to better understand the theory and importance of achieving their goal. Most of the time we would take an issue an discuss different view even though we agreed that is teaching and learning, it is a shame our universities have lost this perspective. Every one remembers R.T. D.Q. ( Read The Damn Question) that included the reason for the testing and Bill figured it outl ———————————————————

R.O.E.S. Memories By Jim McDonald, Bill’s Nephew How did William B. Ogden get to California? Background Music on/off 97 Christmas 1983 (Click for largecphoto_) Bill and Tally’s 50th wedding anniversary in 1993. They married in 1943_

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Emma K. Jensen, the matriarchal strength of the family, brought her three daughters Patricia, Tally and Thora to America from England where she owned and operated successful boarding houses. Bill was born in Maryland and attended and graduated from a Military School. He wrote music and pæms and became a theater barker where he met Tally. They entered America via Ellis Island and settled in New York. Emma then pursued her ability to run houses and moved the family toa three-story home in Palisades Park, New Jersey and established another house business. The daughters entered into a theatrical position with the Rocketts’ so were in show business where he met Tally. He and Tally did not have children thus his great love of children, which was such a blessing to all of us the extended family kids. Bill and Tally married and then he went off to war where he served in the Army signal Corps and taught electronics and was sent to China. Thora the youngest sister was divorced. Tally had married Bill; Pat was married to Charles Stevenson. Emma decided to move us all to California so we did. We moved to North Hollywood and then Emma bought property in Burbank California and built homes for Tally and Bill, Pat and Steve and the house Thora, Grandma, and I lived in. When Bill and Charles were discharged they found out they should come to California so they did. Pat and Steve IEgan their new adventures, Pat was involved in private investigation and Steve (Charles) became a technical representative for an aircraft/aerospace firm. Bill and Tally were encouraged to use Bill’s great ability for teaching and his electronic background to find an avenue for a career. Thora and Emma continued to support boarders and child day care. The start of R.O.E.S: The FCC required a 1st Class Telephone license for repairs to done on commercial radio and the new T.V. phenomena. While there were plenty of skilled few had the required to satisfy the FCC requirement, hence an opportunity for Bill. When radio and TV stations had announcers that had the required license local technicians perform the required repairs. Announcers could gain employment and higher wages if they had this license. He provided a solution with a class to teach announcers and technicians the required curriculum to obtain the license. He made a proposal to the Don Martin School of Radio and IV Arts and they accepted. They were located in Hollw,’ood and Bill with limited funds bought a Cushman motor scooter and drove to Hollv.’ood from Burbank. This was a big commute in those days. T.V. was booming and were doing many remote broadcasts during this time frame and if the announcers had the the remote technicians could function, greater strength for Bills concept. This is where he taught Don Lomond and Jack Narz. Bill increased the sco# of his program by adding the Fredric A SFEers School of Radio Arts. With two accidents on his scooter and great success in the concept, Tally and Bill decided to start their own business. They 0#ned the first R.O.E.S in Burbank in 1949, not the one most people know of on Olive Ave. The first school was an office building two miles away from the Olive AVE School; on the way home Bill and Tally would see the new school property and asked the owners who ran a holiday shop if it was for sale. The owners this and sold the property to them. The property consisted of a house and work shop. Tally and Bill built the new school in the house prtion of the property but kept the workshop where Bill built the students desks for the school. The school flourished and when they decided to move to Huntington Beach in 1966. This is where they retired in 1973. Bill still loved work and children and He created bowling leagues for the kids to participate in and made wood workings for the family. 1995 cruise, one of 23 they enjoyed. Click for largecphoto_ Thora, Bill and Tally Bill, Tally and Thora restat the Pacific View Memorial Park in Corona Del Mar, CA 9 miles south of Huntington Beach, CA. over looking the Pacific Ocean. William Bernard Ogden was born April 18, 1913 and passed away in Huntington Beach, CA on January 24, 1998 at the age of 85 The cause of death was aortic failure following a prolonged surgery at the Houston, TX Medical Center. Attalla (Tally) Ogden was born on April 1771914 and died March 5, 2006 at the age of 92. Thora died on March 5, The cause ofdeath for both was Cancer. We want to thank Bill’s niece Patty Stevenson Porter and nephew Jim McDonald for sharing with us memories of Bill, Tally, Thora and You can thank them by—igmng the Ogde Guestbook lea -ng your “The Accom lishment ofthe Difficult Sho What Men Are. Bill’s statement- ” ou did and you accomplishedL” We greatly appreciate the contributions and help of Bill’s niece Patty Porter and Bill’s nephew Jim McDonald (Thora’s son) enabling us to pay our res#cts and to bring back those precious memories in our lives many years ago. It was an incredible time that we will never forget. May you rest in peace! sign our GUEST BOOK wifhguzt Comments R.O.E.S Book .4 Jim McDonald in 1958 and 2018 Patty (Stevenson) Potter. Bill’s niece who lives in Washington state. More from Bill’s nephew Jim McDonald Huntington Beach, CA January 25, 2019 Bill Major Surgery: Bill developed aneurysms on this aortic artery, three to be exact, up;Er, mid, and lower all of which were a size that could lead to a rupture which would be catastrophic. HIS cardiologist suggested the we go to Houston medical Center and consult with Dr. Crawford the only surgeon who was doing the lower fix. We started the journey and met with Dr. Craw’ford and his 19 teen member team in training and agreed to have the surgery. Crawford was an amazing physician, since i was handling their finances the question of cost came up. His answer was simple whatever the insurance payed was the fee we never received a bill! WOWI The surgery lasted over ten hours with Bill’s body temperature being lowered to 90 degrees F Bill then spent almost 3 months in intensive care recovering from the surgery because they could not get him off the respirator support due to his lung capacity Probably caused by his smoking Finally we were ready to bring him home from Houston to Huntington Beach. When I went to check him out they printed his medical charges 3/4 inch of computer p.a#r, thank God I had a no limit American Express Card so prepared for the worse looked at the total charges and were $431 _ 54, I almost fainted. Thank Gcd for doctors and medical centers that were truly there to help Tally and Thora stayed at a hotel that connected to the hospital by a walkway for the whole time I would fly in every week to be with them and Pat came down to be there for a while also. Now the white knuckle time came for me he needed an oxygen tank to get home finding an airline that would allow it was difficult, hats off to American Airlines they agreed Bill and Tally were in first class and Thora and I were in coach so I would go up frequently and check on them and Mom said to me stop worrying I got upset and have to confess that I yelled at an Angel out of nervous frustration. She was right we made it and Bill recovered fora long time. We found out much later that one ofthe repairs was not successful this news really effected Bill. You could see in him for the first time a lack of fight. While not being a physician, the lack of fight was probably a influencing factor in his passing. Next snippet will be on teaChing math. Warmest Regards Jim January 25, 2019 You asked about my teaching math, Bill worked with me on math in my teens at home and at the school I worked at the dtnr and cabinet business next to the first ROES school and would go over after to ride home so I was exposed to his teaching In 1954 1 attended the class during the summer and obtained a 1st Class Radio Telephone license Bill instilled in me a desire to share knowledge so I started teaching math at ROES. Thank the Lord my teaching experience expanded to being a teaching assistant at Glendale College, University of California State Los Angelesv and North ridge,lecturer at UCLA and IJCI in sales and marketing to the graduate school of business and systems engineering at the University of Missouri. I also had the wonderful opportunity to teach business ethics for years at McDonnell Douglas school of management training. I can not help you on Richard Kiel while he was one of my students I have no knowledge of his teaching at ROES. l’am going to combine another question you had about teaching the FCC test. Bill was a analytical person so when he decided to teach the course he researchedthe reason for the license. With directional stations and the advent of TV and remote broadcasts It was imperative to insure that they did not infringe on other areas. So the analysis to course content went like this: Third Class Rules and Regulations Second class theory of transmission electronics to supervise technicians First class management of technical wformance i.e. Mu Lu equation as an operator did you understand your meter readings to insure that you were not infringing on Other stations frequency? I could have a mole for Bill since I was teaching and part of the family when I took the exams never a question of the test content was asked in stead we would sit down for at least an hour or two and discuss many Issues one of which was how we prepare students to better understand the theory and importance of achieving their goal. Most of the time we would take an issue an discuss different view even though we agreed that is teaching and learning, it is a shame our universities have lost this perspective. Every one remembers RT. D Q. that included the reason for the testing and Bill figured it outl Regards, Jim GLOSSARY OF TERMS &.red 4′ f/’e c o MMUNIC&10Ns COMMISSION RADIO OPERATIONAL e. OGDEN ENGINEERING SCHOOL Courtesy ofPatty Porter, Bill’s niece Modesto Radio Museum Est. 2004 The Modesto Radio Museum is a California non-profit organization which owns and this website dedicated to preserving the history of commercial broadcasting in Modesto and the area. Our purpoæ with this virtual museum, is to increase and preserve the sights, sounds, knowledge, understanding and appreciation of those broadcasting pioneers who brought commercial broadcasting tothe San Joaquin Valley in 1933. Your contributions and comments are mcEt welcome. Top

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Name: Jeff Porter (Bill’s Nephew)
From: Thousand Oaks (Currently Olympia, WA)

 

 

 

 

 

 

E-mail: portercreative@yahoo.com

October 13, 2012

Message:

I am Bill Ogdens Great Nephew. I was stunned to see an entire page dedicated to his radio school and got kind of emotional seeing all the lives that he affected. I don’t know what made me look up his name on the internet today but I am glad that I did. Bill and Tally are deceased but his family lives on. I believe that he passed in 1998 but I will get more family to confirm when I share this page with them. Actually Tally’s sister Patricia Stevenson is the only extended sibling of that era still around at 100 years old! My mother, Patricia Porter is Bill, Tally and Thora’s niece. I have very fond memories of Bill, Tally and Thora.

We always loved visiting their house in Huntington Beach California. I knew a different ‘Uncle’ Bill than everyone else as I was just a kid in high school when he passed. In retirement Bill did a lot of woodworking and gardening. I remember staying up late with him watching Johnny Carson when we stayed at his house, always visiting at Christmas time and always having wonderful meals at their house. They were always a pleasure to be around and I wish that they all could still be here. I would love to hear more stories about the Ogden’s during their time at the radio school if you have more stories. Again, I will pass this page along to my sisters, mother and family to read and share their own thoughts. My mother is great with dates and can confirm more details about their lives. Thank you again. I look forward to reading all of the comments.

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Submitted by
Name: Patty Porter
From: Washington State now, previously from Calif.
E-mail: alanporter1@msn.com
October 14, 2012
Comments:
My name is Patty Porter, William B. Ogden was my uncle, as Tally and Thora were my aunts. Some would remember me as Patty Ann, which my aunts and uncle preferred to call me. This wonderful site was found by my son Jeff Porter, and what a treasure it is. I have enjoyed reading all the comments, as my Uncle Bill was very special to me. I started working at R.O.E.S while in High School in the 60’s. I continued after graduation and got married and moved to Huntington Beach with my husband when they opened up the school down there. My husband Alan was the first janitor for the dorms and classrooms, while he attended college. We both worked there until 1967, when we made a move to Reseda. Some may remember my mother, Pat Stevenson, Tally and Thora’s older sister who is now 100 and lives with us. My mom did the memo-graphing in the back office on a as needed basis.

Uncle Bill was like a second father to me, as was Tally (Attalia) and Thora (Torree) second mom’s. Uncle Bill taught me to ice skate and bowl. Most of you may remember all the bowling teams he was on.

After retirement Tally convinced Uncle Bill to take 1 cruise, and after that they both loved it so much they managed to take 22 cruises in all. We always remained a close family and saw them often, as did my children.

I accomplished my 3rd class license while working in the office. I always wondered who came up with the color scheme of purple and yellow. As a young lady I sure did not think those colors went well together. I was often the person at the doorway taking the coffee count while Uncle Bill said….”Coffee’s get them high”. Of course there was always someone who forgot to raise their hand and had to come to the kitchen to ask for a cup. Thora and Tally always accommodated them with a smile.

Uncle Bill did pass away January 24th 1998, and Tally March 5, 2006, I was there holding her hand as she passed. I believe it was 1987 that Thora passed, I’m sure I can find that date. Thora’s son Jim McDonald is still living in the Huntington Beach area, I am sure many of you remember him. I will pass this site on to him.

My life is filled with wonderful stories from these great people who impacted my life to this day. Thanks to those who appreciated him so much, he would be honored.

Patty PorterChristmas 1983 Bill and Tally’s 50th wedding anniversary in 1993. They married in 19431995 cruise, one of 2h they enjoyed.
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More from Bill’s nephew Jim McDonald
Huntington Beach, CA
January 25, 2019